In 1968 President Lyndon B Johnson thought Nixon was effectively sabotaging the Vietnam war peace talks." Click Here to read the article and hear the Pres. Johnson's tape.
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New information on the saga of the "Quan Loi Queen" has become available thanks to MSGT Robert Aston (U. S. Air Force, Ret.). Robert flew into Quan Loi on the support aircraft and was tasked with helping to start the Queen via its "prop wash" at Quan Loi. It was a perilous job as you will read. Robert has sent an article that appeared in the Air Force Base newspaper in Taiwan and photos of the "Queen" in the wash rack at Tan San Nhut AFB, South Vietnam. Many thanks to Robert and his son, Bob, for sending this new "Quan Loi Queen" information.
It is with sadness that we report the passing of Ken Wright, Charlie Battery Gun Chief, on 27 July 2015 at 18:30 hours. Ken was a friend and content contributor to this website and he will be missed by many. More information will follow when available. Click Here to read Ken's Obituary
Johnny Kinder was sent to Quan Loi, at what turned out to be a very inappropriate date and time. He was a mechanic with BN Maintenance, HHC 1st Engr Bn, 1st Inf Div. and he was sent to Quan Loi to adjust a transmission on an Allis Chalmers HD16 Bulldozer. It turned out to be a very exciting trip to say the least. Many thanks to Johnny for sharing his eyewitness memory of that night. Click Here to Read it.
If you were there at Quan Loi that night and would like to share your memory of that Ground Attack please email us.
19 Jul 1965 - The 6/27th Artillery was
alerted for deployment to Vietnam .
26 Jul 1965 - LTC Robert J. McKay assumed command of the Battalion
Aug 1965 - The 27th was
notified that they would be assigned to USARPAC upon
embarkation. All equipment was to be ready for
August 15th; all personnel had to be ready by September 18th
The year 2015 marks the 50th anniversary of the 6/27th Artillery in Vietnam. Throughout the next months we will be marking this anniversary with significant "milestones" or "events" that occurred in the history of the Battalion. Our source will be the "A Legacy of Honor". Many thanks to Adrian Gravelle, former XO of Service Battery, for a great suggestion!
In an attempt to
keep you informed when new content is added to the
website and to spotlight content you may have missed
from the over 4000 pages on the site, it had been
decided to publish an email newsletter at least
quarterly if not sooner. If we had a current
email address for you we added it to the mailing
list and you should have received the first issue
already. Thanks to all of you for the good
comments many of you have sent.
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If someone asked those of you who served at Quan Loi, South Vietnam to name one good memory of the place - perhaps it would be the Frenchmen's Swimming Pool and Clubhouse Area. It was a unique place in Quan Loii let alone the entire country of South Vietnam and it was a very good memory.
The Frenchmen's Area is long gone now, removed by the new government of a united Vietnam some years after reunification, but the memory is preserved in GI's photos and in one case the only known film of the place. Come back with us now and revisit that memory in new video.
SP4 Paul R. Frederick’s History of the 6/27th Artillery is a remarkable document, especially when you consider the conditions of where and when it was researched and written – on the battlefield per se – Phuoc Vinh, Vietnam in 1966 and 1967. Regrettably SP4 Frederick’s history ends in the middle of 1967. The 6/27th Artillery remained in Vietnam for another four years serving in heroic ways. No history of these remaining years has yet to come to light. Perhaps one day one will.
John A. Wavra
Fellow Cannon King and early contributor of photos and memories to the website, Donald J. Graham passed away on Sunday, February 22, 2015 in Oil City, PA. In early 2004 Don sent copies of his photos taken in 1965 during his crossing to Vietnam on the USNS Gordon and early days in Vietnam. His photos and memories remain a valuable asset in reconstructing the history of the 6/27th in Vietnam. Rest in Peace Fellow Cannon King.
Karl Sherck's Charlie & Alpha Battery Photos - 1967-68
Karl Sherck had the "privilege" of serving with two 6th Battalion 27th Artillery batteries in Vietnam - Charlie and Alpha. He has graciously shared his photos from 1966 to 1967. There are over thirty photos from his Charlie Btry time. In July of 1967 he was transferred to Alpha where he served out his Vietnam tour. Three photo galleries include over eighty photos of Alpha Battery, the French Swimming Pool and photos of Vietnamese children at Christmas 1967. Many thanks to Karl for sharing his photos.
Gravelle's Vietnam - 1965-66
Adrian Gravelle was the FDC Officer with Charlie Btry, 7/8th Artillery in 1965 when he and several other officers were transferred to the 6/27th Artillery in Ft Bliss, TX. The 6/27th had been recently alerted for movement to Vietnam and needed to fill out its roster and needed officers and cannoneers. Adrian made the voyage on the USNS General Gordon and shares photos of that trip.
During his initial months in Vietnam he worked out of Phouc Vinh as a forward observer and as a liaison officer in the 1st Brigade, 1st Infantry Division’s Tactical Operations Center/ In early 1966 he was eventually assigned to Service Battery 6/27th as XO.
We are pleased that Adrian has agreed to share many of his photos from his time in Vietnam including the building of Service Battery's compound in Long Binh, Service Battery convoy photos as well as miscellaneous other photos and documents from 1965-66. They are a great addition to the website and add to the history of the 6/27th Artillery in Vietnam. Our thanks go out to Adrian for sharing his memories from Vietnam.
Dale Martin's Vietnam Photo 1965--66
Dale Martin joined the 6/27th Artillery in March 1965 and made the voyage over on the USNS General Gordon. He ended up being assigned to Alpha Battery moved to the first camp near Bien Hoa. Dale's collection of 45 photos cover those early days when Alpha was the "Bastard Battery" and move around in support of different operations.
Girardeau's Vietnam Photos 1965-66
We are happy to add photos from an officer who made the ocean crossing on the USNS General Gordon to the website. John Girardeau was commissioned as a 2Lt after graduation from Georgia Tech ROTC in 1964. He served a twelve month tour and held a number of positions with the 6/27th including Forward Observer, Air Observer, Battalion Fire Direction Officer, or Assistant S-2. He recalled someone having described him as “...the most shot at man in the Battalion”. John spent 18 years in the Army Reserves and retired in 1985 at the rank of Lieutenant Colonel while also working at E. I. DuPont until his retirement in 1993.
This is a collection of 13 photos taken during John's tour and he says he may be adding to it now that he has recently purchased a slide scanner. Our thanks to John for sharing his photos and we look forward to seeing more.
An Interview with John H. Girarduau, III
Conducted on July 23, 2003
at the Virginia War Memorial
Memories of Vietnam with the 6/27th Arty 1965-66
"Memories of the Voyage to Vietnam"
In 1964 John Anderson was drafted into the U.S. Army shortly after obtaining a degree at Oregon State University. Like many of us, he eventually ended up in the Artillery - specifically, Alpha Battery 6/27th Artillery. In October 1965 John still had seven months to serve of his two year stint. When the unit was deployed to Vietnam he joined 5000 other G.I.s aboard the USNS General Gordon for a 30 day sea voyage. The Army rule was that anyone with more than six months left in their service would be eligible for orders to Vietnam.
Fortunately for us, John was an amateur photographer and he took his camera along. John has agreed to share over 360 of his photos taken during his seven months in Vietnam. It is the largest group of photos the website has ever received. Included are photos at Ft Bliss, TX, the ocean crossing on the General Gordon, the first camps near Bien Hoa, the 1965 Bob Hope Show and the 1966 Ann-Margret/Johnny Rivers USO show to describe a few. The photos are grouped into 19 photo galleries. John also has provided a narrative of the journey over on the Gordon.
In addition to his photography skills, John is a fine watercolor artist. You will have an opportunity to view a sampling of John's work as well as purchase one if you find any to your liking.
New Watercolor Painting by John Anderson
John Anderson recently sent a new watercolor painting of Alpha Battery under mortar fire at night in 1966. As with all of John's works, it is worth taking a look at, and perhaps you will like so much you will want to purchase a copy.
Note: View 2 New Vietnam Paintings
Bill Moyers Interviews Karl Marlentes - Watch it Here
Bill Moyers Interviewed Karl Marlentes, author of "Matterhorn" a 2010 best selling novel of the Vietnam War and "What It Is Like To Go To War ?" a non-fiction 2011 work about modern veteran life upon return to the civilian world, recently on his PBS show, Bill Moyer's & Company. It is an interview worth seeing. Click Here to watch it now.
Vietnam in the News
By The Associated
on May 21, 2015 at 7:41 AM, updated May 21, 2015 at 7:42 AM
WASHINGTON — Documents released by the National
Archives' Nixon Presidential Library on
Wednesday (May 20) add weight to considerable,
existing evidence that Richard Nixon's 1968
presidential campaign tried to sabotage Vietnam
peace talks before the U.S. election. The
apparent purpose: to deny his Democratic
challenger, Hubert Humphrey, a political
advantage in the tight race to succeed Lyndon
Johnson. . .
The Times Picayune
How Many Vietnam Veterans Are Still Alive?
Take a Number. How Many Vietnam Veterans Are Still Alive? By ANDREW GELMAN. Published: March 25, 2013 in the New York Times. The approximate percentage of Vietnam-era veterans who are still alive in 2013 is 75. Here is a copy of the article just in case you can not get it from NewYorkTimes.com. Please note - this corrects the story "Vietnam Vets Take Notice - Here Are Some Interesting Statistics..." posted earlier and listed below. Nice to learn there are more of us still alive than we thought before. Glad you are one of them!
Former Vietnam POW Remembers Vietnam Forty Years Later
"Forty years ago on March 13, my fellow prisoners of war in North Vietnam and I, dressed in cheap civilian clothes that had been provided to the 108 of us for the occasion, boarded buses for Gia Lam airport on the outskirts of Hanoi. A Big green American C-141 airlifter was waiting there to fly us to Clark Air Force Base n the Philippines." Click here to read the article.
Published in The Wall Street Journal, March 14, 2013
President Johnson discusses Nixon's Vietnam tactics
In 1968 President Lyndon B Johnson thought Nixon was effectively sabotaging the Vietnam war peace talks." Click Here to read the article and hear the Pres. Johnson's tape.
After 40 Years, the Complete Pentagon Papers
"It may be a first in the annals of government
secrecy: Declassifying documents to mark the anniversary of their
leak to the press. But that is what will happen Monday, when the
federal government plans to finally release the secret government
study of the Vietnam War known as the Pentagon Papers 40 years after
it was first published by The New York Times.
Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers, said the report should not have been secret even in 1971.
At first blush, it sounds like the release of one of the worst-kept secrets in history..."
Read the complete story at The New York Times.com
Read the complete Pentagon Papers at The National Archives
New Vietnam Documents & History Now Online
As the years go by more and more previously "secret" or "restricted" documents are being made available. As we become aware of them we will make them available to you. Visit the
WASHINGTON — In an echo of the debates over the discredited intelligence that helped make the case for the war in Iraq, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Wednesday released more than 1,100 pages of previously classified Vietnam-era transcripts that show senators of the time sharply questioning whether they had been deceived by the White House and the Pentagon over the 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident. Read Article Click Here to download Copies in PDF File
EyeWitness To History - "History is indeed the witness of the times, the light of truth." (Cicero)
Here are new memories of events that took place at Quan Loi:
Online Roster Reminder
Over 200 visitors have listed there names and contact information in the online roster. It is a great way to allow old friends to find you after these many years. The Roster has a secure entry and requires a username and password which you receive when you submit your own information for inclusion. We invite you to join - like everything on this site it is completely free.
Once your name is listed you will be advised via email when new listings are added. With that in mind, several of you have changed your email addresses and not advised us of the change. When time permits, would you please email us if you desire to continue to receive the notices.
Thomas Richard Dwyer's name was added to the In Memoriam page. Thomas served with F Battery 16th Artillery which was attached to the 6/27th Artillery in 1969. Thomas died as a result of an incoming rocket at Quan Loi. We are honored to add his name to the 6/27th Artillery In Memoriam page.
Finally - Photos of F Battery 16th Arty Attached to 6/27th Arty
Many thanks to Bill Wynne for sending some of his
photos from his days with F Battery 16th Artillery in Vietnam.
For those of you who do not know, the 6/27th Artillery had a 155mm
howitzer battery attached in late 1968 or early 1969. This
battery was F /16th Artillery which some considered the 6/'27th's
"D" Battery. For a time F Btry was located at Quan Loi.
Bill has included photos of F Battery's guns, FDC and personnel
while at Quan Loi and some other locations. His photos are a
welcome addition to the website and will help tell the complete
story of the 6/27th Artillery in Vietnam. I think you will
find them of great interest so
check them out.
Just added a second page to Bill's gallery and also a downloadable PDF file with additional photos. Be sure to check them all out.
Historic Quan Loi Vietnam Videos Added to Website
1966 Michael Chalifoux, assigned to the 1st Infantry Division, was
only in Quan Loi for a month when his aunt in Pennsylvania
sent him a Super-8 movie camera. Over the next 7+ months Mike
shot film in and around Quan Loi, including the Frenchmen's Swimming
Pool, the airstrip with all types of aircraft, the nearby Montangard
Village, and An Loc to list just a few. His film shows Quan
Loi (L Z Andy) in its early days as an airstrip.
The 40+ minutes of film was copied to DVD. For ease of viewing on the website the video was edited into six smaller videos. Mike was interviewed during a Skype call and his comments were added to the videos. All six videos were uploaded to youtube.com and then embedded on pages on the website. You can view them all by clicking here. Thank you Mike for sharing your film with us.
OTHER VIETNAM NEWS
Agent Orange cleanup to start at former US base in Vietnam
"HANOI — Vietnam and the United States aim to start cleaning up contamination from Agent Orange at a former wartime US base in the middle of next year, the US embassy said Thursday."
VA Extends 'Agent Orange' Benefits to More Veterans
Parkinson's Disease, Two Other Illnesses Recognized
WASHINGTON, Oct. 13 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Relying on an independent study by the Institute of Medicine (IOM), Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric K. Shinseki decided to establish a service-connection for Vietnam Veterans with three specific illnesses based on the latest evidence of an association with the herbicides referred to as Agent Orange. Read Complete Press Release at Reuters
AND THEN THERE'S THIS:
Vietnam Vets Take Notice -
Here Are Some Interesting Statistics...
In case you haven't been paying attention these past few decades after you returned from Vietnam, the clock has been ticking. The following are some statistics that are at once depressing yet, in a larger sense, should give one a sense of pride.
Many Thanks to Don Albers, former Battery Commander, Alpha Battery,
6/27th Artillery Vietnam - 1969 for sending these statistics to us.
Don received them from friends at West Point Academy. We are not
sure who to attribute this original compilation of statistics to (It
can be found at other sites on the web), but whoever you are -
thanks for doing it. Even if they are a little mind-blowing.
"Of the 2,709,918 Americans who served in Vietnam; less than 850,000 are estimated to be alive today, with the youngest American Vietnam veteran's age approximated to be 54 years old."
So, if you're alive and reading this, how does it feel to be among the last 1/3rd of all the U.S. Vets who served in Vietnam? We Don't know about you, but kinda gives me the chills, considering this is the kind of information we are used to reading about WWII and Korean War vets.
Click Here See them All:
Saga of the Quan Loi Queen
Chances are, if you were at Quan Loi on November 17-18, 1969, and you had a camera, you took photos of a C-130 that was hit by a rocket on the Quan Loi Airstrip. I took several photos as did Jan Maclaga, Dennis Camp, Glen Russell and Jim McLain of that damaged aircraft. I'm sure there are many more squirreled away in closets and attics of Quan Loi Veterans. That battered C-130 was a "curiosity" of the war. All of us knew that the plane was severely damaged from that rocket and it would remain on the side of the airstrip for several months until a crew was finally sent in with a new wing and other parts to repair her. I doubt that any of us knew that the twenty-one year old USAF Loadmaster of the Queen, Norm Thomas, was killed that day from rocket shrapnel. It is time we honor his memory.
All of us at Quan Loi relied on the crews of the C-130s, C-7A Caribous and choppers who flew in mail, supplies and provided us safe transportation. Quan Loi would have been a whole lot worse without them. Thanks to the pilot of the Quan Loi Queen that November day, Lou Hari, we can now learn the complete story of that sad incident and what eventually happened to the Quan Loi Queen. I think you will find it one of the most interesting stories to be added to the site. Click Here to read it.
Who We Are This website was started in October 2002 by John Wavra with much assistance from Jim Hynes and Reed McDonald. It has since grown to what you see on your screen today. It would be but a few pages if not for all of the comrades who helped. I thank each and every one of them for their contributions of photos and/or stories, etc., which have helped to began to tell the story of the 6/27th Artillery in Vietnam. It is long past time that credit is given to all those who helped. See them all at Who We Are. There is still much to tell. Come, join us! Add your photo or name to those listed on the Who We Are Page by sending your memories and stories to me. Email Conjuncti Stamus John Wavra
Quan Loi - August 12, 1969 Ground Attack - A Grunt's Perspective
Thomas Mathis was with the A Troop 1/4 Cav on the night of August 12, 1969. His memory of that night brings a new perspective to what took place when the NVA attacked Quan Loi that night. It is worth your time. Click Here to read his account from the new August 12 Start Page.
Were you in Quan Loi on August 12-13, 1969?
If your answer is yes, you don't have to be reminded of the ground attack that was repulsed that night. Many thanks to former SSGT Robert W. Smith for providing us with a copy of the August 14, 1969 Stars and Stripes. If you would like to learn about that night or refresh your memory click here to read it.
If you have a memory, photos or video of the August 12-13, 1969 Quan Loi ground attack you would like to share with the site, please drop me an email. (JWavra)
I was very pleased to recently receive a promotional copy of David Bedard's memoir of his Vietnam service in the Artillery Ballistic Meteorology Unit of the 1st Air Cavalry Division from February 1969 to February 1970. I don't receive many promotional book copies so I was tickled to get this one, but I was even more pleased to see the title, "I Remember Quan Loi - Annus Horribilis - The Horrible Year". David had served his entire Vietnam service tour in one of our "favorite" places - Quan Loi. His unit was located right next to Alpha Btry 6/27th Arty.....(Continued).
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